I am super happy with the ventus evo12s, when all was said and done it was just about $500 so in the end they are worth it. They are good in the rain, though I don't drive too often when it rain but have been out when the ground is still wet. Much stickier than the nankang ns2s I had on before and side wall seems pretty good at least for a 16" rim not super still but not too soft either.