Hello DSMers,

Back again with an issue that has plagued my 1g Talon ever since I purchased it. I am going to describe 2 different scenarios whereby the symptoms have been exhibited and a make-shift solution implemented that serves as a temporary fix, without a reasonable explanation as to the true cause of the recurring issue. I will leave it to you guys to propose viable theories on the root cause of the issue as well as potential solutions to fix it once and for all.

Scenario 1:
Car is parked in my underground garage over night; i.e.'Cold Start'. I wake up in the morning, put the key in the ignition, starter motor turns the engine and it starts fine. I go to the grocery store and park the car for say 20 minutes. I come back and try to start the car; i.e. 'Warm Start'. The starter motor clicks but does not turn the engine. I roll the car forwards a few feet, pop it in 2nd, drop the clutch, push the clutch back in immediately after, then turn the ignition, start motor turns the engine, car starts fine. And I'm off.

This has been the case pretty much ever since I had the car in my possession. It is intermittent, with no real signs of why sometimes it happens and sometimes it does not. It should be noted that a brand new start was just installed and the grounding wires were fixed up. The only explanation I can think of for this is something involving mechanical resistance (of the engine?), since whenever I get the engine turning by dropping the clutch in gear, it seems to catch just fine.

Scenario 2:
This one happened for the first time this morning. 'Cold Start' again. Woke up in the morning, went to start the car as usual, key in the ignition, starter motor turns the engine, but this time it does not catch; it just keeps rolling over. I tried giving her a little gas but still not luck. One time it caught on and was running for about 5 seconds before stalling. I thought this was air-fuel related, since I have done a few mods lately with the intercooler, MAF/T, AFC2, increase boost, but haven't tuned yet. So I was looking for a misplaced vacuum line or something. But everything seemed fine. Then I tried to do the 'roll' trick again, and low-and-behold, it works. Popped the clutch, turn the ignition and car starts fine again.

Scenario 2 pretty much negates my theory on mechanical resistance, since the engine was turning. This leads me to believe that the root cause is electrical signal-related or has to do with some sort of sensor pertaining to the movement of the vehicle/transmission/crankshaft.

So there you have it. Feel free to ask me any questions. I will try my best to be as responsive as possible in a timely fashion. Looking for ideas on root cause and solutions.

thanks,

Last edited by Danny Dias; June 30, 2016 06:10 pm UTC.

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