That and as mentioned in the tuners post..and a lot of what I've read.. Most won't experience the true benefits of meth unless fully tuned with 3d mapping.

Like I said before tho. I'm not that experienced in meth.. So I don't try to figure it out.

Now water is said to not get true benefits untill your way over the limits of your set up.. But I'm just using it as a secondary intercooler so to speak.